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Old 08-26-2016, 11:38 AM
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He should be providing his disclosure annually within 30 days of taxes of the date if the original order without her having to request it.

He sends his NOA, his t-slips and full tax return for the previous year. That's it. He doesn't need to tell her he is or isn't going to send anything prior to that as that just opens the door for more argument.

He will have met his obligation and that's the end of it, he doesn't respond to anything further.
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Old 08-26-2016, 12:01 PM
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If it went to court they would ask for his last year's disclosure, not last 5 years as it was already disclosed at the outset (last three years is what is asked ) and he is not obligated to provide his last 5 years every year.
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They had a written agreement that they followed and she
Decided she wanted to go off the guidelines instead and now wants to go back 5 years.
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Their agreement says taxes. He did that. In 2013 she disagreed that his cs went down because they followed taxes. Then he lost his job and his lawyer told him to go back and calculate based on his actual income not his taxes which he did. She rejected that payment and said they have to follow the agreement and use taxes. Then she filed with FRO so the cs amount was REALLY out of whack. THEN kid left home making his cs payment over paid. His lawyer said it doesnt matter what the taxes or noa say, his actual income is used to calculate cs. (Theres a line in the fcsg and the divorce act on proper income for the purposes of cs calculations because of people who deflate their line 150 etc.) Last year when the school expenses came up she decided to send him her last five years of taxes and noas. His lawyer saw the email and the stuff and said "this is irrelevant, if her line 150 is the true amount then that year is used" and he calculated the % for the costs. This year the cs overpayment was finalized with all the documentation to prove the calculations (t1, t4s, statement of ei account and paystubs to show his current income which is higher than the line 150).

Now she wants to go back and recalculate all the cs from 2012 to now and then calculate the last two years school expenses because she thinks he owes her money. If they do that calculation she will actually owe HIM about $3000 because he was reasonable and included costs not applicable, allocated the resp and grant to kid (against the terms of their order) and used his higher income to calculate his %. (All of which was against his lawyers advice but lawyer agreed him being reasonable on those calculations would benefit him if it went to court).

Hes been more than reasonable the last four years, has provided all of the relevant documentation for calculation and now shes demanding he follow rules shes interpreting. Shes not bringing a child support application forward.

He can provide her with this years noa but like I said, he used his current income (with proof provided) to calculate the expenses.

Shes out of money and is spinning around in circles trying to make him dance like a monkey.
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I'd let her do all the calculations and then wait for the cheque - use for getaway in the Fall?
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She wont ever calculate that. She will find some way to say he owes her money. Then it will be a cycle of him doing the calculations properly to send, her dispute, his dispute lather rinse repeat.

Its like she just has to continue to engage. No matter what he sends she doesnt agree but when he needs info she ignores him. Hes still waiting on a receipt for an expense she claimed in 2014. Is she going to send it or sit and try to calculate the child support from 2012 to now?
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They had a written agreement that they followed and she
Decided she wanted to go off the guidelines instead and now wants to go back 5 years.


Blink, I mentioned this point to my partner and he agreed. Was also frustrated that her refusal to follow the guidelines a couple of years ago also resulted in her telling the kids he didnt pay child support. His response back included pointing out her flip flopping and also the item in the "how to calculate your income" that states if 150 isnt the right amount you should use paystubs or a letter from your employer which he provided. So far no response. Not sure what shes up to.
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Youre missing what I said. His ex wanted him to follow the agreement and didnt like it five years ago when cs went down and she knew he was making more money. Then he confirmed their agreement was wrong and he sent the proper cs amount and arrears for what he should have been paying. She didnt like that. She sent everything to FRO and didnt inform them when kids status changed. She was collecting more money than was owed. Now she wants to follow csg rather than agreement and figures theres missing money somewhere. There was--to my partner. She cant calculate anything to save her life and keeps losing emails and files and wants him to jump through hoops to keep her information organized. Hes sent her everything he needs to send her, she cant figure out the paperwork and wants to take whatever the highest amount is at all points in time to calculate cs and school expenses. Two years ago she wanted to use income amounts from two years before to calculate that year of expenses.

I should also mention that she has money sitting at FRO to be recovered and hes told her three times its there and he will agree to release it but now shes chasing her tail on income information he sent four years ago.
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Youre missing what I said. His ex wanted him to follow the agreement and didnt like it five years ago when cs went down and she knew he was making more money. Then he confirmed their agreement was wrong and he sent the proper cs amount and arrears for what he should have been paying. She didnt like that. She sent everything to FRO and didnt inform them when kids status changed. She was collecting more money than was owed. Now she wants to follow csg rather than agreement and figures theres missing money somewhere. There was--to my partner. She cant calculate anything to save her life and keeps losing emails and files and wants him to jump through hoops to keep her information organized. Hes sent her everything he needs to send her, she cant figure out the paperwork and wants to take whatever the highest amount is at all points in time to calculate cs and school expenses. Two years ago she wanted to use income amounts from two years before to calculate that year of expenses.

I should also mention that she has money sitting at FRO to be recovered and hes told her three times its there and he will agree to release it but now shes chasing her tail on income information he sent four years ago.
Be very careful with his advice. He presents himself as knowledgeable but is very inconsistent with what he suggests to posters.

For example, he mocked me for months for not getting an emergency motion right away when there were no concerns from CAS, police etc. He then advised another poster to not go for an emergency motion due (denial of access and a self-reported unstable and historically suicidal parent) because there were no CAS concerns. I just pray children don't get hurt from this man/woman's poor advice.

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