Uttering Threats

[Johnboy35]

I have been reading a few threads about being (falsely) charged with uttering threats. My wife recently did this to me as a lame attempt to gain custody of our kids that have lived with me for the last three years since we split up. The police came and arrested me in front of the kids, no questions asked. I believe she was told to do this as an easy way to get the kids but it didn't work, they are still with me.

I was offered a peace bond with restrictions, i declined, then just a peace bond I refused that too because it is a flat out lie so it is going to trial in June.

I would just like to know if I could get some replies from anyone who has gone through this and taken it to trial. I'm very ineterested to see what the outcomes were.

[Lorac]

Hi Johnboy

My X sent the police to my house saying I threatened to kill him (shoot). This officer came to my apartment on or about 8:00 A.M. I let him in and he began asking me if I owned a firearm. I replied yes I did. He wanted to see it and it was then that I asked him what this was concerning. He told me my X called Police Headquarters and reported a threat concerning a weapon I have to his life. I got my firearm, all my licences, PAL, Outdoor Card, Gun Registration and proceeded to show him it was locked up with a trigger guard and that the ammunition was not in my home but at my sister's house. He came into my living room, sat down and we talked about the invents that let him to my home. He said "Carol I have no concerns but can I take your firearm on good faith until this is settled". I replied fine, I don't need it until the fall anyway.

The following morning I get a phone call from the Gun Registry Office in Toronto explaining to me that they will be sending a medical form to show that I am not ...mentally disturbed...on drugs....violent...dangerous to myself/others or unstabled. My Dr. was furious and said "this is a waste of his time...the officers time...and the registrations time. Needless to say I passed with a clean bill of mental health. I got an apology from the officer, the ministry and the female officer who returned my firearm.

I am now up for renewing my PI License. I now have to have a background check done to see if it will show up on my record. If it does then I will no longer be able to renew my license.

This is what the result of "spite" is. All this because I left him and I pay him manimoney and he's still not satisfied.

P.S. He also told the officer I attacked him with a broom handle. We both laughed at that one.

L.

[hadenough]

The police are supposed to have probable cause to put someone under arrest. Meaning they have to believe that an offense did in fact occur. So just on the say-so of your ex, you were arrested and charged?? Did she have ANYthing to back it up? A text? An email? Something? If not - it's ridiculous that this has happened and she should be charged with filing/swearing a false statement. I had opposite problem. My ex DID threaten me, verbally and physically. And he was arrested - but he denied it anyway in any court docs after that, and to anyone that would listen. Definitely stay away from the ex. If she's capable of making that up and there's no basis to it, you can't put anything past her.

[mcdreamy]

Originally Posted by hadenough

The police are supposed to have probable cause to put someone under arrest. Meaning they have to believe that an offense did in fact occur. So just on the say-so of your ex, you were arrested and charged?? Did she have ANYthing to back it up? A text? An email? Something? If not - it's ridiculous that this has happened and she should be charged with filing/swearing a false statement. I had opposite problem. My ex DID threaten me, verbally and physically. And he was arrested - but he denied it anyway in any court docs after that, and to anyone that would listen. Definitely stay away from the ex. If she's capable of making that up and there's no basis to it, you can't put anything past her.

As per usual, we always have to remember there are two sides of the story. Why haven't these 3 kids been encouraged by the CP to spend time with their mother? Parent alienation works both ways.

Fortunately I have no advice on charges with uttering threats, false or otherwise. Either on the receiving or giving end.

[hadenough]

McD: there was nothing in the OP's post that stated she was without access. Just that the kids have been residing w/him since the split, 3 years ago. And yes, there are 2 sides (sometimes more than 2) to every story but there's nothing to indicate that there is any parental alienation taking place.

[mcdreamy]

hadenough: before I reply to a post, I always try to check back on past posts to see if I can get where they are coming from. It would appear from the op's history, she is without access.

[staysingle]

Johnboy35,

As a man I am proud of you for standing up to this false charge! Under no circumstances do you sign off on false charges. False domestic charges and death threat allegations is now the most effective method for blocking a parent (father) from seeing his children and getting the kids and home. Every cop, lawyer and judge knows this and nothing is being done to stop it.

The only way to protect yourself is to bring it to trial and stop having any communication with this wack-job.

Lorac, you can chuckle at your positive outcome. The only reason your not in jail at this time is because your female ( not an attack on you personally). If you were male kiss your gun goodbye and if you had minor age children you wouldn't see them...period. This happens all the time and its sickening.

Johnboy35, private message me if you want help self representing this matter. Also don't hesitate to message if you wish to avoid future problems like this one

Good work buddy

[Chris2008]

Wow, I guess I have been very very very lucky. My ex called the police on me for assaulting her, they came and left and just asked one of us has to leave. It's funny how all this conflict is starting right before she moves out as we have a child together and it's going to go to court for custody.

I feel fortunate the cops didn't believe her. It was not for a lack of evidence I assume because my lawyer said they would've arrested me even just for something like verbally threatening.

[staysingle]

Chris 2008,

Indeed you are fortunate. I have cop friends in 4 police forces and they all tell me that they are now instructed, from the top, on all domestic/death threat allegations ( operative word is allegation) they show up for someone is getting arrested..period and let the crown/lawyers work it out.

Often these false claims happen sometime on a Friday and your forced to sit in jail till Monday morning. Plenty of time for your partner to clean out bank accounts, furniture etc.

Until the charges are disproved or dropped ( typically 6 months or more) you are barred from attending the children's school, sporting events, your home.

All it takes now for her to "win it all" is phone call for false accusations.

Learn from your past experience, you are in very treacherous water

[hadenough]

When the police are called to the home, they do speak (at length) w/both party's. My ex was not allowed to come back to the house (just once, and with the police to get his stuff) but he was NOT banned from communicating w/our child or from going to his school. As it turns out, he's interested in neither. There was a "no contact" order between he and I. There was nothing preventing him from using a 3rd party to arrange to speak with, or see our son. I know ppl do a lot of crazy things but it seems hard to believe that a woman merely has to "claim" there was a threat, and presto, charges. My ex is an abusive liar. He got off easy. First offense. They dropped one charge (of 2), court ordered Anger Management (that didn't help) and then gave him a conditional pardon, I believe.