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Old 05-08-2006, 07:58 PM
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You can't really sit on something of this nature but another option would be to have the office of the children's lawyer involved, they will investigate the matter thoroughly, perhaps even interview the other mother etc and they could make the call to the CAS.
The Office of the Children's lawyer usually doesn't get involved if CAS is actively involved/investigating in the case or have taken a position on custody of the child. And if you did choose that route first, they would defer this to the CAS for this kind of investigation.
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just to throw my $0.02 in...

if there is a child being abused... ANY type of abuse, report it immediately, and let a professional make the call whether it really happened or not.

If there is one thing in this world that makes me madder than anything else (other than having someone use all my hot water when I want to shower ) it's low life pieces of garbage who abuse children.

However, since vigilante justice is illegal (yet oh so satisfying) if it were my decision to make, I'd be sure to do everything I could to make sure that if there really was any type of abuse (ESPECIALLY sexual abuse) that the person doing it would get to spend some time in a certain place where even murderers look down on child abusers / pedophiles, and might just subject that person to the type of humiliation and degradation that the person inflicted on an innocent child.

Still, even in a case where abuse / molestation are involved that wouldn't be enough punishment as far as I'm concerned, but none the less... just thought of a pedophile getting to play mommy and seriously beaten if they don't puts a smile on my face.
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Yes the cases were somewhere to the extreme, omg, not to mention the additional calls to the police in the second case.

I have read a number of cases where one single allegation was made to the CAS. It was proved unfounded and It ended up coming back to haunt the party in a custody adjudication.
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Lv,

You are completly off base when you state that a child would not want to go back to the abuser or come up with excuses not to go. Abusers manipulate and put fear in the child that the child most times would be terrified not to go back. They tell the child that it is their fault, they will be in trouble if they tell etc.

I still can't beleive that we are still debating this ...whether to worry if reporting suspicions will make us look bad in court. How can you look bad in court if you are looking out for the best interest and safetly of your child.

Wow!!
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Sherif28,

I think it would depend on the child and the circumstance. A child may be manipulated or a child may not. Not all children are the same. Not every child abuse case is the same either. I agree some children remain silent for years and out of the blue they spill the beans and tell all.

If abuse is occurring who knows all the details and to what extent.

My point was that making unsubstantiated unproven allegations in the midst of a custody adjudication may work against a party. I think I proved that point. I could post many more cases that shows this.

If child abuse is occurring then yes definitely do something about it.

I do take abuse very seriously, and I don't turn a blind eye to it either. I have no tolerance for it whatsoever.

I don't think I am off base on what I posted on this at all. It is my opinion and and I stand by it much the same way as you and your own opinion. I am still responding to subsequent threads because members have been quoting what I have posted in their own opinions. It appears to me that they are looking for a response.


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It is a genuine concern however, I wonder if the prevalence of reporting is significantly higher upon separation and divorce - does anyone know about that?
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I have seen American reports of this nature, but none with a Canadian content. I applied google power quickly and came up with this Canadian paper found at the federal justice site

BACKGROUND PAPER
ALLEGATIONS OF CHILD ABUSE IN THE CONTEXT OF PARENTAL SEPARATION: A DISCUSSION PAPER

http://www.justice.gc.ca/en/ps/pad/r...FCY-4.html#_61
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Old 05-09-2006, 10:19 AM
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"WHAT ABOUT ME"

"Seeking to understand a child's view of violence in the family"

http://www.lfcc.on.ca/what_about_me.pdf
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American Statistics

http://www.betterendings.org/justice/Stats.htm

http://www.betterendings.org/justice/allegati.htm
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I still can't beleive that we are still debating this ...whether to worry if reporting suspicions will make us look bad in court. How can you look bad in court if you are looking out for the best interest and safetly of your child.
Wow!!
AMEN!!! Do what is best for the child- put aside how it will look for you in court.

I suppose some people can live with themselves and sleep at night knowing that they are ignoring kids being abused but it will help them in the end, I suppose. Personally I think that you ignore it and you are just as guilty as the offender.
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