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Old 05-06-2017, 02:44 PM
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so offset was in place and you paid him as you had higher income

you then left the job started a part time business and used expenses to reduce income so he would have to pay you. why didn't you stay at job with higher income? Why isn't your business full time? Just some questions a judge might have.

how much were you paying him initialy. how much was he paying you before he stopped paying?

is he perhaps asking for no child support? it's not unreasonable to not order any child support when the amount is insignificant. is it worth all administrative overhead. tax dollars . odf resource time for $80 a month? mediation and trial for $80 a month? I don't think so.

go to mediation and try to work out something fair like zero child support. I'm sure your income will go back up someday and you'll have to pay him. with zero child support you can make as much as you want and would never have to pay him. think long run.

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I would think that you would be obligated to pay for your full-time job. Multi-level marketing (attending rah-rah seminars at hotels on weekends) are highly questionable business expenses. Your income for the part-time work was 4,000.00 you say and your expenses were 8,000.00? Doesn't sound like it is a very good use of your time or a good business to be involved in.
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I am a coach. I have 2 part time businesses, one is network marketing and the other is a mindset coach. I am training for it to go full time..
No, I did not quit a job. My contract ended due to the loss of government funding. I spent almost a year interviewing for jobs in my field, the field I was in for 12 years and respected. Due to a health issue I cannot do all the jobs that I could before. So I finally had to accept a job not in my field, that paid much less, so I could support my family. It had nothing to do with how much child support I could get. It had to do with me being a responsible adult and doing what was right and just and working for my family, whatever it may be.
And so I am building part time my options to improve my income and opportunity. I have to do a new career that will continue to be possible if my health gets worse. That costs money and as I am actually practicing my coaching part time, and getting paid, I must claim both my income earned at it, and my expenses, just link any other person who starts a business.
For anyone who has ever started a business... expenses will ALWAYS exceed earnings at the beginning. It has no bearing on whether it's a good business to be in. It is an investment. And down the road HE will benefit as my income increases too.

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why don't you work at McDonald's or burger king on your free time then?
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@trinton..that is a low dig.
And I don't have to justify and answer.
But I will. Because I choose to invest my time and money into something that will have a chance of becoming a career and improve my family's life. Because I am passionate about helping people change their lives and serving a hamburger with a smile is not going to do that.
Why did you chose the career you are in? Why did you choose the partner you did? Why did you choose to shop at longos instead of food basics?
How is my choice relevant to the question I posed at the beginning: whether child support amount should be mediated or not?
I'm not asking for your personal opinions about my life and how YOU or anyone else thinks I should live it.
I asked a procedural question about child support. I think I have given enough situational explanation to get good feedback

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@trinton..that is a low dig.
And I don't have to justify and answer.
But I will. Because I choose to invest my time and money into something that will have a chance of becoming a career and improve my family's life. Because I am passionate about helping people change their lives and serving a hamburger with a smile is not going to do that.
Why did you chose the career you are in? Why did you choose the partner you did? Why did you choose to shop at longos instead of food basics?
How is my choice relevant to the question I posed at the beginning: whether child support amount should be mediated or not?
I'm not asking for your personal opinions about my life and how YOU or anyone else thinks I should live it.
I asked a procedural question about child support. I think I have given enough situational explanation to get good feedback

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no no it's not a personal thing and I'm actually on your side. just thinking of questions a judge may have.

It's not about you or your future. it's about your kids and whats best for your kids now. why should your kids miss out or your partner pay your dues cuz you don't want to flip burgers and want to only work only a few hours a day for your own personal luxury?

I'm in i.t. I should be in school finishing engineering but took a job so my child could benefit NOW. yes I continue my schooling part time but I maintain the same income and take it higher every year. if I lost my job would I do what you're doing and refuse to work at fastfood crap? probably. would a judge be okay with it? probably not.

just agree to no child support and walk. go take a vacation. is this seriously worth an extra $80 a month? is it worth the stress? not even worth my 5 minutes of time to reply to this.

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Billiechic... don't waste your time on Trinton... it's because you're a female trying to figure out CS. Situation reversed Trinton would be urging Dad to go after mom for CS because his income was down.

The question at hand has been answered I believe. Mediation is always the best place to start. Going to court should be the last option. Start with mediation and if things can't be resolved then file in court.


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I am a coach. I have 2 part time businesses, one is network marketing and the other is a mindset coach. I am training for it to go full time..
No, I did not quit a job. My contract ended due to the loss of government funding. I spent almost a year interviewing for jobs in my field, the field I was in for 12 years and respected. Due to a health issue I cannot do all the jobs that I could before. So I finally had to accept a job not in my field, that paid much less, so I could support my family. It had nothing to do with how much child support I could get. It had to do with me being a responsible adult and doing what was right and just and working for my family, whatever it may be.
And so I am building part time my options to improve my income and opportunity. I have to do a new career that will continue to be possible if my health gets worse. That costs money and as I am actually practicing my coaching part time, and getting paid, I must claim both my income earned at it, and my expenses, just link any other person who starts a business.
For anyone who has ever started a business... expenses will ALWAYS exceed earnings at the beginning. It has no bearing on whether it's a good business to be in. It is an investment. And down the road HE will benefit as my income increases too.

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I wish you the very best success in your business endeavors.

I have indeed owned and operated several businesses (the types which require considerable outlay of cash and actually employ people).

You will have to convince your ex and judge (if you get that far) of the validity of your "business" and expenses. Good luck with the part where you have to show money you paid your sponsor (to train you for coaching?) is a legitimate business expense and not a pyramid scheme of sorts.

Don't get me wrong - I do hope you succeed. I just want you to be aware of the skepticism you will likely encounter.
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Billiechic... don't waste your time on Trinton... it's because you're a female trying to figure out CS. Situation reversed Trinton would be urging Dad to go after mom for CS because his income was down.
Nope. I would say the same thing situation reversed. A father in her position would get eaten alive in family court.
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Arabian I did not pay anyone in network marketing to train me. The training is in my coaching career, I have certifications from 3 recognized boards and the trainers are certified to train in those boards. If the judge cares to dig that far for an issue of $4000 then I can certainly bring proof of both my payments and my certificates. They are welcome to call the boards themselves.

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