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Old 01-12-2017, 09:26 PM
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If the plan is to move to the states for her to go to university there, the question becomes why isn't she just moving there by herself? If mom is moving there with the child (and the step dad) and dad (Real dad) is also moving there, then the family unit is clearly living under a different jurisdiction. Why should they have to come to Canada whenever they have to deal with a situation that comes up? What they have to fly to Canada to file that emergency motion because that's where the jurisdiction is? Makes absolutely no sense.

PS. that whole all of a sudden the child wants to go to the states, and doesn't want to be involved in dad's life, but is very close to step dad thing isn't quite making sense. Sounds like the step dad is really influencing the child as his own and working very hard to cut the real dad out. You're taking care of the legal aspect. Or trying to anyway.

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PS. that whole all of a sudden the child wants to go to the states, and doesn't want to be involved in dad's life, but is very close to step dad thing isn't quite making sense. Sounds like the step dad is really influencing the child as his own and working very hard to cut the real dad out. You're taking care of the legal aspect. Or trying to anyway.


Or maybe bio dad is a jerk who hasn't been around for his child and thus step dad was the only true father figure she has had in her life.

I don't know how you guys keep up your constant negativity on these forms and argue with everything. Not every parent is an A+ parent like you think they are. There ARE bad parents out there (moms and dads) that ruin their own relationships with their children, without the other parents influence. My husband for example doesn't speak to his father because of some incidents involving just his father. But I'm sure you'll blame his mother still because dads do no wrong.


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I concur Berner_Faith. There are many parents (male and female) who are not stellar. This is but an example of a poster's response, yet again, that women are evil.... pity party for the father (with absolutely no information with which to take that position).
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Is there any way you could stay in Canada and be close enough for kid to live in residence or is it a case of moving removes the "international student" name and reduces costs?
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I concur Berner_Faith. There are many parents (male and female) who are not stellar. This is but an example of a poster's response, yet again, that women are evil.... pity party for the father (with absolutely no information with which to take that position).
I did not say that women are evil. I'm sorry that you feel that way. But that is not to say that women can't be evil, otherwise, I wouldn't be turned into a visitor and ultimately on this forum in the first place.

I have a hard time concluding that the step-dad has had no discussions with the child regarding the move to another country. It would be very hard to believe. Do you honestly think that the energy at the home with the step dad is one that portrays her real dad is an amazing person? I would beg to differ.
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I would suggest they probably don't run their home around dad, or act as if he were there and it is unlikely that they spend much time discussing him. Chances are they just live their life and have their own relationship outside of hers with her father and the kid just prefers that relationship - as many do when the father goes to great lengths to damage his own relationship with the child.
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I would suggest they probably don't run their home around dad, or act as if he were there and it is unlikely that they spend much time discussing him. Chances are they just live their life and have their own relationship outside of hers with her father and the kid just prefers that relationship - as many do when the father goes to great lengths to damage his own relationship with the child.
Now, to that point, if the mom and step-dad are planning a move with the child to another country, and the biological dad is also moving there to be close to his child, is he damaging his own relationship or is he doing that to protect it and be close to his kid? Moving with the child to another jurisdiction, with a new replacement "dad", and leaving the biological dad behind, is to me what potentially damages the relationship.

I may very well be wrong in concluding that the family is influencing the child in anyway, but without knowing the other side of the story, it's hard for me to say otherwise. It just doesn't add up that the child wants to change schools and at the same time doesn't want the relationship with the biological father meanwhile the mom and step-dad are also moving with the child. What I can guarantee here is that mom will obviously introduce the new partner as an important person of the child's life and obviously talk positive things about him. Sorry if I offended anyone.

I'd definitely like to hear some input from some of the fathers in this forum as well but that might be another debate that we don't want to get into as the question is whether the case will be transferred to another jurisdiction or not - I think it will. This would be no different than the parents moving from Ontario to Vancouver and wanting to keep the jurisdiction in Ontario. Doesn't make any sense. This is a mobility case with the father - the biological father - also moving to the new jurisdiction.

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Pursuing Happiness has been with her current partner for many years I believe.

Their daughter (age 17) is graduating and going to university in the US next year. PH and partner plan to move to the US to be with daughter.
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Pursuing Happiness has been with her current partner for many years I believe.

Their daughter (age 17) is graduating and going to university in the US next year. PH and partner plan to move to the US to be with daughter.
OK I didn't realize we are writing affidavits. I thought we are having open discussions.



The child will be graduating and attending University X located in Ohio, USA. The applicant will be locating to Ohio, USA with the child.

The child's biological father has maintained a positive loving relationship with the child.

The child's biological father will be moving to the US to be close to his daughter and continue his loving and close relationship with the child. He has suitable residence with a bedroom for child, and close to the University.

The respondent firmly believes it to be in the best interests of the child for the jurisdiction to be moved to the state that the child, and the biological parents will be residing in for the next 4 years.

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How can they change jurisdiction of the move hasn't happened yet? No judge will work off what ifs. Even so, Dad is trying to do all this for financial reasons, eliminate CS, cut S7 costs and on top of it is seeking SS... I don't see how any of that is about fostering a healthy relationship with his daughter.

I do think of both bio parents relocated he could probably apply to the court down there to change jurisdictions but he would have to wait until both moves happen.

You are all about "hearing the other side" yet I don't think anyone has heard your other side trinton... how do we know what you are saying about your case is true? Can you provide advice without projecting that Mom is doing this to spite Dad?


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