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Old 04-29-2007, 11:53 PM
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Just wanted to get this forums opinion re child support. I am the recipient of child support and am not very clear as to what it covers. Want others opinions, how it works in their situation. For example, birthday presents for birthday parties from school friends. When the children are with me, I decide whether the children attend and pay for the gift. When the children are with dad, he decides whether they attend or not, but he is of the view that I should buy the birthday gift for the child(ren) attending. Does this seem right? Your thoughts would be appreciated. Thank you.
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hmmm... ask 10 different people and you will get 10 different answers...

Do you receive full table support? What is the access (50-50... 90-10)?
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it covers basic day to day living expenses for your child......birthday parties and trivial things like that are whoever has the child that weekend responsibility.......dental, medical, daycare things like that are split according to wage ratio.........CS covers (or supposed to) food, clothing and daily living expenses......it doesnt fully cover but propotionately does......hope that helps
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hmmm... person #1... answer #1...

Littleman... I am curious of your line ... birthday parties and trivial things

Let's say you spend $500 per month in CS... $600 per month in daycare... how much is left over in the "pot" to spend on birthdays and other trivial things, simply because those events happen to land on the paying parent's days? Ahh... the great double-dip.

Birthday present, wrapping paper, card: $30-$40
Did the ex provide proper clothing? Yes? No? Maybe another $50
Gas there and back: $5

Thats $35-$95. On average about 1 party per month. Plus their party... and on and on... those trivial things add up.

You see how quickly the paying parent gets burned.
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hmm... let me spin this another way. Why do you, as the recipient, feel you should not pay for it.
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I know some parents that incur $300 - $400 a month in travel expenses exercising the child's access notwithstanding that such access is the right of the child and therefore making it a parental responsibility. This amount is paid over and above monthly tabled child support.


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Yes, I agree with LV and littleman.
We are an example, we cover all costs associated with access, and mother relocated to Thunder bay, more than 18 hrs straight driving from us, with but 10 days prior notice, court would not hear our claims on the same (that's a whole other ball of wax), but we were expected by the custodial mother to cover all costs associated with access and refused to even "offer" to cover anything in regard to access, as she put it, "It's a matter of priority, and I would expect Mr. X to put his child before his own personal needs". "If he doesn’t want to see his daughter that's his choice, but who gets hurt here? Not him”. Guilt trip?? you bet!!

A birthday present here and there, and a few streamers is really nothing and really should not be an issue. The cost should be covered by whom ever is giving the birthday party, and the other parent simply provides the regular gift(s) for the child. I'd rather that then the $800+ we now incur in fuel, accommodations and food to exercise visitation.



Do NOT turn this into a matter of wits. This is too trivial to split hairs over.
There are far worse things to worry about. Advise the other parent, if I give the party I will cover the supplies, and equally if you give a party. If we do it together, (if that is an option) then the costs could be split 50-50.
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oh.. don't get me wrong. I pay full table CS and pay about $350-$500 per month in these trivial "extras". As well as $200 per month in gas (from my latest calculation) since my ex refuses to help in the driving.
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I dont want this to turn to debate however in MY case I am sole custodial parent and in my opinion (and his lawyers) if he wants to exercise access then he has to do all the driving to and return my child home.......as for birthday parties why would I supply a gift for a child I have never met.....what I stated was that the parent who has the child at the time of the event should pay for the gift for the other child.......just like when my child goes to the movies with is father I dont pay for that.....this is done by choice on the fathers part not mine....the paying parent (in my case) thinks his child can get by on 346$ per month........to help feed,clothe,house.......give me a break my child is 12 and can eat 346$ in a month alone.......oh yes my child is growing like a bad weed (meaning 3 sizes since January) at that rate 346$ doesnt put clothes on my childs back little lone all the trivial things........ yes trivial things.....I say trivial because if my child is healthy, fed,safe then everything else is trivial......
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I apologize, as my comments came off as insulting to some.
Not my intention. Bottom line I was trying to point out the person giving the party covers the costs, parent not present at the party sends a gift for "their own child" if it is their birthday that is being celebrated.

If the party were at the custodial parents home, ditto for the non-custodial parent they would only send gift(s) to "their child" if it was their birthday being celebrated.

That is all I meant.
Sorry.
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